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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby DJRansome » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:15 am

I've seen mixed reviews on the behavior of the giant demasoni...some say they are skittish.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby Biciclid » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:36 am

Anyway for me at least it will be for the distant future
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby daviddj » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:45 pm

So most of my fish have arrived at my LFS. I will collect them in a couple of days. Do juvenile labidochromis caeruleus have the black markings or do they develop in time? I notice that on the wholesaler list they are described as Labidochromis sp. yellow/gold. Do you think this means they aren't caeruleus?
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby DJRansome » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:33 pm

They have the black when they are spit. I would not accept them.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby daviddj » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:46 pm

Hmmm... That's what I thought. I dont, and haven't seen caeruleus on the distributors list. My choices here are very limited.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby Fogelhund » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:18 pm

DJRansome wrote:I've seen mixed reviews on the behavior of the giant demasoni...some say they are skittish.


Mine were... but they were wilds, and I think you might have got that from me. Seems tank raised are less so... at least in what I'm guessing.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby DJRansome » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:27 pm

I've heard that from several experienced fishkeepers. IDK whether all were wild.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby daviddj » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:49 am

DJRansome wrote:They have the black when they are spit. I would not accept them.


As it turned out they do have blackmarkings. They were just very washed out after only arriving last week. Anyway all fish now in the tank; nice after nearly a year empty. I won't have the rusties till January and the Synos arrive later this week. Big thanks for the help here especially DJRansome and Bicichlid.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby daviddj » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:39 pm

More questions :)

It's nearly two weeks and all the fish are healthy and settled; no casualties.

There was a mix up when I collected the fish and instead of L. sp Perlmutt I took home a bunch of white Labs. I have nearly all of them caught and will swop them for my Perlmutt early next week.

Q1. One of the male white labs is particularly nice looking and I am tempted to keep him. This would give a final group of 2 males (one white, one yellow) with 4 (ish) females. Good or bad idea?

Q2. Male mainganos; how soon to start removing? I have 11 fish and definitely at least 4-6 males (much darker colours, more aggressive, have their own little territories) Should I wait or try and catch some of them now? They are not at all as obliging as the Labs and Acei in entering my fish trap :(

Q3. Acei. I have 8 with a final figure of 5 in mind. As they are not easy to sex should I just base removal on behavior or some other criteria? There is one particularly small one that I might remove this weekend.

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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby tanker3 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:52 pm

1) I like, and have both the Perlmutts and White Labs, but they do look very similar. They may cross breed, but if you do not care if they hybrid, I would just wait and see.

2) I would remove as many Males as I see because they are so aggressive with each other, just a matter of time before they fight.

3) I have never kept more then 3 Acei at any given time (a very peaceful fish), but I would only remove extras as needed.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby daviddj » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:15 pm

Thanks for the reply tanker3.

I left out an important point! I also have yellow labs. I was intending a group of yellow labs and a group of perlmutt. I ended up, mistakenly with yellow and white labs. While the whites are nice I would prefer the variation in shape as well as colour of the perlmutt.

So my question should have been; Do I keep the single (very attractive) male (I think) white lab with my yellow labs giving a final group of 1 white male, 1 yellow male and 4 ish yellow females.?
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby tanker3 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:30 pm

IMO, the yellow and white males may fight, but if you have a big enough tank (and again if you do not save the fry), then IMO--It should be OK.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby daviddj » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:35 pm

No, I'm not bothered about the fry and if they fight I can always move him on. So it might be worth having a go...
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby DJRansome » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:45 pm

Do you have Synodontis multipunctatus for fry patrol? You may get survivors.
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Re: New to Cichlids 5x2x2 tank

Postby daviddj » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:25 am

DJRansome wrote:Do you have Synodontis multipunctatus for fry patrol? You may get survivors.


I have petricolas. I was hoping they would have an impact on fry numbers.
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