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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:29 pm

I just made a deal for a 100gal tank. dimensions are 60 x 18 x 20 inch. how would that change my options?
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:47 pm

With a 60" tank you can go 5 species instead of 4 but otherwise, same options. You still don't want look-alikes.

Maybe it would be better for you to tell us what you DON'T like about the prior suggestions so we can fit your requirements?

From that list
Pseudotropheus polit and cynotilapia afra cobue I don't think would color up well with the fuelleborni.

1m:4f Pseudotropheus flavus
1m:4f Metriaclima sp. Msobo
1m:7f labeotropheus fuelleborni katale

Then maybe 1m:4f socolofi or acei to substitute for the polit. Or if you prefer a Cynotilapia, I'd go with Jalo Reef or Hara.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Mudkicker » Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:57 pm

OP...I suggest that you pick one species that you really like a lot and just have to have. Then we will help you work around that. You need to establish a starting point.
100g 5ft Mixed Gender: Fryeri, Chrysonotus, Phenochilus, Tetrastigma, Caeruleus, Eupterus
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:08 pm

Well there are a few issues that im having, first i like alot of them and want them all in my tank lol
Next google. When i google a picture i get 20 different variations of what the fish could look like. The rusties are a good example of this.
Next i dont want common fish that i see in my LFS or at walmart.
Next I love contrasting coloros, red/black, blue/back, yellow/black, some with red mixed in, mostly black. Most fish i like tend to have black bars with hurts my selection.

Fish i like and why
The Pseudotropheus polit - im seeing a all white fish with a black head.
Pseudotropheus saulosi - blue & black bars, plus a female with color
Pseudotropheus flavus - i love the black and yellow.
cynotilapia afra cobue - pic im seeing has blue on bottom, yellow or orange on top and black bars
Metriaclima sp. Msobo - blue and black with a colorful female
labeotropheus fuelleborni katale - pic im seeing, mostly yellow body with blue head and top

Fish i dont really like would be solid color males, or fish that have blotchy colors. reminds me of a Koi fish

I hope that helps. Im very picky I know.

Main thing im looking for is a variety of different males with the possibility of breeding, which is why i dont want a all male tank or a species only
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:07 pm

This is also a challenge because the most common pattern is bars and you want to avoid look-alikes.
Fish i dont really like would be solid color males


So what's wrong with this?

1m:4f Pseudotropheus flavus
1m:4f Metriaclima sp. Msobo
1m:7f labeotropheus fuelleborni katale
1m:4f Pseudotropheus polit (take the risk)
1m:4f Cynotilapia sp. Hara
125G Borleyi, Maleri, Astatotilapia, Multipunctata
75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
55G Chrysonotus; 38G Demasoni
33G Hara; 33G Kwanga; 33G Maingano; 33G Cobue
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:40 pm

Nothing at all lol i didnt know that was a option.

Questions thought, didnt you say the flavus would not color up unless it felt dominate?
Also with the polit, is that a "try at own risk" or "i think itll work, but still has a risk?
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:58 pm

i also just found a place that has a
pseudotropheus perspicax red top ndumbi
in stock, could that fit in anywhere.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:20 pm

or this guy?
Copadichromis Mloto likoma regular
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:21 am

Flavus should work. Polit is a risk because they like to be dominant in the tank to color well, but with a criteria of no solid males, worth the risk. Perspicax is extremely aggressive...maybe if you did a species tank. Mloto is a hap and they are too timid to mix with mbuna.
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75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:31 pm

okay quick question.
The 100gal fell through. It was actually only a 55.
But i got another deal on a 72gal bow front, which looks better than my current 75.

The question is, it has a overflow. Will that take up too much room?
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For a stocking off
1m:4f Pseudotropheus flavus
1m:4f Metriaclima sp. Msobo
1m:7f labeotropheus fuelleborni katale
1m:4f Pseudotropheus polit

Or the victorian set up
Xystichromis Kyoga Flameback 1:4
Paralabidochromis sp. "Rock Kribensis" 1:4
Astatotilapia latifasciata 1:4
Paralabidochromis chromogynos 1:4

itll come down to which stocking list i can get more easily
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Iggy Newcastle » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:48 pm

The 72 bowfront should be treated as a 55 gallon because you cannot factor in the 'bow' as additional territory. Just use your current standard 75.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:53 pm

awesome! thanks for the quick reply!
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:58 pm

So back to 3 species. Eliminate labeotropheus for sure.
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75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
55G Chrysonotus; 38G Demasoni
33G Hara; 33G Kwanga; 33G Maingano; 33G Cobue
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:21 pm

no no, i wont be getting the bow front. So its 4 for the 75gal, correct?
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:48 pm

Four depending on the species you choose.
125G Borleyi, Maleri, Astatotilapia, Multipunctata
75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
55G Chrysonotus; 38G Demasoni
33G Hara; 33G Kwanga; 33G Maingano; 33G Cobue
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