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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Mudkicker » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:33 pm

Salousi (blue barred & yellow) 1m:4f
Labeotropheus trewavasae "red top" (powder blue & OB) 1m:7f
Rusty (purple/brown) 1m:4f
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:15 am

Alexpol08 wrote:Ohh okay, is there a Mbuna that is white and black with vertical stripes??
Not white with black...and even then it would be too much of a look-alike with the hara, right? Labidochromis Perlmutt can look a little like that. There is the Victorian Astatotilapia latifasciata which is black/white bars and males have touches of yellow and red. Might work with peaceful mbuna. FYI stripes are horizontal and bars are vertical.

Alexpol08 wrote:When you say "4 species of mbuna". If i go with the saulosi's then youre saying i should not get any other Pseudotropheus correct?
Our hobby is confusing because to every rule there is an exception. Pseudotropheus genus is the exception because unclassified fish reside here until they are classified. So Pseudotropheus you can mix.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Mudkicker » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:10 am

DJRansome wrote:Not white with black...and even then it would be too much of a look-alike with the hara, right? Labidochromis Perlmutt can look a little like that.

Years ago I picked up a trio of Labidochromis that was pearl white with jet black vertical barring. No bars or markings on the head region and had 4-5 bars on the body only. It was sold as Nkhata Bay or Lundo. I was never able to find them ever again. I think that GTZ also kept the same variant. Not 100% sure though.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Mudkicker » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:25 am

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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:17 am

I like that fish mudkicker!

So what about something like this
Pseudotropheus saulosi'
Pseudotropheus Elongatus jewel spot

Victorian Astatotilapia latifasciata
Pundamilia nyererei Anchor Island

Or would they mix of Malawi and Victorian be a problems?
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby PhinFan1981 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:20 am

I would not recommend mixing mbuna with fish from any other lakes. Mbuna tend to be too much for Victorian cichlids to handle.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:32 am

Saulosi and elongatus are both blue barred fish, choose one.

I would not mix nyererei with mbuna, I did try that. The males were basically black and the females languished over a period of years. Once I put them back in a species tank all the colors re-appeared.

The astatotilapia I had with all male Malawi haps and peacocks and he was too aggressive for them (although this mix works for many). Might work with mbuna though.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:14 pm

Okay so what about
pseudotropheus acei
Pseudotropheus saulosi
Pseudotropheus flavus (i know the females are rather colorless but i really like the males!)
Pseudotropheus crabro
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:51 pm

Crabro is on the special needs list. 8" fish and aggressive. Males are brown/black and females look like flavus.
I'd probably go with 3 species but use 2 species slots for saulosi to get 3 blue barred males. 3m:9f on the saulosi.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:03 pm

So you said that people have succeeded with the Astatotilapia
so what about them and the Saulosi's?
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:17 pm

Astatotilapia have worked for others (not me) in an all-male Malawi tank.

I see them with saulosi in one of the cookie cutter tanks. I'd try it with those 2 species and acei.
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:08 pm

Didnt you say to use 3 species, with 2 spots being taken up by the saulosi's? Wouldnt adding the acei's be too much?
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby DJRansome » Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:44 pm

I'm thinking right now this is your list:
3m:9f saulosi
1m:4f astatotilapia
1m:4f acei
125G Borleyi, Maleri, Astatotilapia, Multipunctata
75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
55G Chrysonotus; 38G Demasoni
33G Hara; 33G Kwanga; 33G Maingano; 33G Cobue
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Mudkicker » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:35 pm

DJRansome wrote:I'm thinking right now this is your list:
3m:9f saulosi
1m:4f astatotilapia
1m:4f acei

Personally I would drop the Victorian. Choose something powder blue to offset the yellow of the Salousi females. I would switch the Acei for Rusty. Acei will get too big for a 48.
100g 5ft Mixed Gender: Fryeri, Chrysonotus, Phenochilus, Tetrastigma, Caeruleus, Eupterus
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Re: 75 gal stock

Postby Alexpol08 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:13 pm

If i drop the victorian i will probably pick up the flavus.
I am debating on the rusties, havnt made up my mind yet. But are there any all black cichlids that would work or one that has a bit of red in it (not all red)? I heard of something called a "super red top" but i cant seem to see them for sale anywhere
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