Just for all you interested people out there. I kind of want to make a topic that shows all the crosses of species of cichlids. That way people don't try it. OR if your Very very unlucky and these fish just breed like this on you, Which is way more likely lol. SO hopefully this will be a Deterrent just incase people wish to keep the fry. Tho it might cause people to try it. I got another 50 or so pictures of various hybrids.
Cause this video shows a Convict cichlid breed with a Midas. Cant tell the difference, its scary not knowing what your fish can be.
So post your pictures of Central/south American hybrids and tell what species they are. Just so the curious people don't try and breed them and end up being stuck with 1-300 fry and circulate them into the main population,
This is Texas/Red devil.
Scary. Actually I'm starting to like the way it looks.
Not so great when it's Texas/COn. SO don't try it lol
Texas/jaguar hybrid, You can tell by the black marks and more narrow body. Also below the lateral line its purple like a Jaguar.
LOL this is back firing on you. I'd grab a manaconda or jagexas in a second if I saw one. I don't have a problem with hybrids as long as they are sold as hybrids.
Oh I know. but at least the end results are satisfying some peoples curiousity. I know I would have wanted some of theses hybrids. but I didn't know what they look like. Now I do. so its over.
LOL this is back firing on you. I'd grab a manaconda or jagexas in a second if I saw one. I don't have a problem with hybrids as long as they are sold as hybrids.
Oh I know. but at least the end results are satisfying some peoples curiousity. I know I would have wanted some of theses hybrids. but I didn't know what they look like. Now I do. so its over.
That one is a cross. I was reading the topic and the guy show spawning pictures and everything. but there are 100% pure convicts who are naturally blue like that. As the TFG will shw you in a topic about the blue convict in this forum atm.
I have it happening rite now not on purpas but iwoke up and my green texas salvini were garding babys. i bet they will look cool both perints r verry colerfull
Well, call me old fashioned or a stick in the mud or what have you. Maybe a "purist" even, but I hate the whole idea of the hybrids....and believe it or not, I just rescued two large Red Parrots just so I could get my hands on a 55 gallon set up!
There are so many species of cichlids going extinct on our planet that I would rather breed quality strains of purebred cichlids, not hybrids. But we each have our own agendas and ideas and personal tastes.
I brought up this old post as i thought it was interesting, hope that was ok.
I have some Texacon that happened by accident in my mixed tank.
Dads a tex & moms a pink con.
Most will end up a feeders, but I'll try to keep a few.
I've noticed most have taken on the dads genes.
I noticed 1 or 2 that are almost silver. They're much smaller & aren't growing as fast.
I may try to save 1 or both if I can.
I like the Firecons, I have both in my mixed tank but they've never tried yet.
I'd personally try to sell any of these guys.
Maybe as feeders if any one wanted them, this is just so they wouldn't try to re-sell them if they got them for free.
No it has not been demonstrated that a new world X old world cichlid cross is possible. IMO, a claim of a convict X red zebra cross is more then likely bogus.
Not only are they likely too genetically distant, but it is a cross between substrate spawner and mouth brooder. So behavior and spawning method would be a hurdle, not to mention the fact no cichlid cross has ever been shown to be possible from cichlids that genetically distant. Scientists have achieved numerous crosses between Coptodon species (substrate spawners) with Oreochromis species (mouth brooders) for purposes of research in aquaculture. These are all African cichlids; all "tilapines" and all fairly closely related . These crosses are not considered very viable as few offspring are produced. And none of these crosses are actually used in aquaculture.
All the crosses in this thread are crosses with in the Heroine tribe. CA cichlids as well as festae from SA. I have seen a thread where some one crossed a convict with a chanchitto (Austroloheros species) and produced fry, but that is another Heroine form the southern part of SA. DNA studies show that the chanchittos are very closely related to CA cichlids. I also seen a thread where a claimed convict X severum produced 1 fry. The supposed cross actually looked the part Many people doubt that such a cross is possible..... though a severum is currently considered part of the same tribe as CA cichlids (Heroine), though DNA studies indicate it is a little more distantly related. No cross between an acara, geophagus or pike cichlid has been shown to be possible with a CA cichlid. The limit for CA crosses appears to be with in the tribe Heroine.
I know this is an old thread, but since it has already been brought back from the dead, got to comment on the original post.
Looking at the video of the supposed convict X midas hybrid , I don't buy it at all. I think it is just a regular convict.
With out pictures of the parents, I have my doubts. Who identified the parents? Already have seen large male 'pink' cons identified by noobs, as midas a number of times. Seen many threads where people new to the hobby identify large male cons with nuchal humps as flowerhorn x convict, just because they are not familiar enough with the different ways a more developed convict might look.
Seen claims of a GT x JD......only to see later that both parents are JD and the poster is unfamiliar with what a breeding female JD looks like. Just one example.
I'm not going to say it is impossible for the offspring of a hybrid cross to look like only one parent, because we know it is sometimes possible. But so far all the known convict crosses look at least a little odd for a convict. With out seeing the parents, I would bet they were mis-identifed by someone.
Nah man they can get huge when I was a kid my dad had a 6 ft tank with one about nearly 30cm long with a plecostamus about the same size and some huge tinfoils
but I never see them anymore only the black ghost knife fish it,s ashame
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Clown knives get a lot bigger than that even. Just take a look at this video. Hopefully this is why knife fish are not in the hobby much anymore because they probably shouldn't be in normal home aquariums. Granted Iridescent sharks shouldn't be either and I still see them in fish stores when i walk around.
If the pair is too aggressive, siphon the fry out into a pale. Then you can feed them back a little later.
Or remove the parents to separate tanks for a short "time out".
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