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Stocking / setup for 20 gallon long

Postby Lloydminster » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:01 am

I Am thinking about getting back into some shell dwellers, I have had multis before and loved watching them and thats why I want to try them out a bit again.

First off my stock list:
5 multis or similis 1 m 4 f ( how many shells should I get)
1 julie
1 leleupi
2 compriceps ( 1 inkfin and 1 firefin)
1 bristlenose
Possible syno of some sort

OR

5 multis or similis 1 m 4 f ( how many shells should I get)
2 julies
2 compriceps ( 1 inkfin and 1 firefin)
1 bristlenose
Possible syno of some sort

I like the first one because of the diversity of colour but realize leleupi can be real aggressive and that it may be too much for a 20 gallon. I am also not sure if a syno is a possibility and will I maybe need so e sort of dither like zebra danios?

Setup
I dont see many people using black or black/white sand for shellies is there a reason for this?
When I had a setup in a 15 gallon before I found there to be a buildup of food and theefore cyano bacteria in the corners so is a power jet neccesary or just less feeding and stronger filtration/better water changes
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Re: Stocking / setup for 20 gallon long

Postby DJRansome » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:28 am

Multifasciatus like a LOT of shells (as many as 100) and multiple layers. I would skip leleupi with shellies in any size tank. If your focus is shellies I would skip the synodontis to get the maximum shellie behavior experience without disruption from the synodontis.

I would probably just do one shellie species and one rockdweller species...a pair of small, peaceful julidochromis like Gombe or a pair of calvus.

Black/white sand is a personal preference.

Cyanobacteria can be avoided with good circulation (not necessarily a power jet) and fresh light bulbs. Plants can create an environment that triggers cyanobacteria, particularly if the plants are struggling.
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Re: Stocking / setup for 20 gallon long

Postby Lloydminster » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:27 pm

So you would go calvus ver comps? I thought calvus would get too big / be too predatory for that size of a community?
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Re: Stocking / setup for 20 gallon long

Postby DJRansome » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:25 pm

All the carnivores will eat fry. Calvus are not bigger than comps.

They may need a bigger tank for the pairing process as it can get aggressive. A proven pair would be ideal but hard to find. If you buy juveniles (buy six) it will be a year or two before they want to pair up.
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Re: Stocking / setup for 20 gallon long

Postby Lloydminster » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:14 pm

I'm not concerned about fry I thought they'd take an adult. Could I do two male comps in the tank instead of a pair or are they aggressive with each other even without females present
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Re: Stocking / setup for 20 gallon long

Postby DJRansome » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:31 pm

I found male calvus to be aggressive even in a 6 foot tank. Just do one male.

Altolamps are specialized to take fry...even with that big mouth/teeth they only take tiny fry.
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