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Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby pford65 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:54 am

Following up on the previous question and the article referred to: The Tanganyikan Community Tank: Part II,
will this work and if not where I am I going wrong? My main goal is to get some fronts and build my tang tank around them.

The numbers of fish can be adjusted as needed. I'm more concerned about compatability. Breeding is not a huge concern at the moment as far as raising the fry. Being able to witness the whole process of courtship and so on would be nice. Having said this, tell me what's not going to fit harmoniously in my tank.

6-8 Frontosa, strain decided
20 Cyps, strain undecided, possibly Jumbo?
8 Tanganicodus irsacae
4 Julidochromis
2 Neolamprologus leleupi
4 Cyathopharynx furcifer

This seems like a lot of fish but the article is about efficiently using the tank space. I added the Frontosas to the list so they may throw this list into a mess but that's why I'm contacting you, the one's in the know. Also, I live in Northern New Hampshire. Do you know of any relatively close breeders in the area that could help me stock the tank? Are any of these fish not available on average?

Thanks all for your valuable input.

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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby noddy » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:20 pm

Furcifers need to be the main inhabitant of the tank. Even though they are a large fish, they can be very skittish and don't do well with any type of aggression.
Jumbo cyps are a little too boisterous for Cyathos.
Also, cyps are part of Frontosas natural diet.
I have kept T. Irsacae wit Furcifers with no issues.
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby Fogelhund » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:50 pm

If you keep the frontosa... no to everything else on the list in most cases... I've seen large Julidochromis kept with them at times... and I've also seen them eaten.

OR

I'd have no issues with leleupi/Julidochromis and Jumbo Cyps together... might need to add a species.

OR

As Noddy has said, Cyathopharynx and the Gobies... and a maybe a pair of brevis.

But all of these fish together won't work, unless you have a gigantic aquarium.
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby nodima » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:50 am

Agree with others, either go Fronts alone, or do something else.

I know a breeder of nice Burundi's in Rhode Island, if you are willing to take a bit of a road trip.
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75gal - Planted SA tank
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby pford65 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:52 am

Wow, I didn't expect to hear this about the Front's and their isolation. I've seen videos of Front's, Calvus', lelupei all living together. How do they make that work?
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby nodima » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:55 pm

In the short term, mixing will work. What will eventually end up happening is the Frontosa get some expensive snacks. I started off with a mixed tank when I first got into Frontosa, but after several years (4-6? maybe) the Frontosa grew and the tank just had Frontosa and Synodontis catfish.

At some point, anything that can fit in a Frontosa's mouth will get there.
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125gal - South American community: Geophagus, Acara, Angels, Severum, Festivum

75gal - Planted SA tank
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby noddy » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:53 pm

pford65 wrote:Wow, I didn't expect to hear this about the Front's and their isolation. I've seen videos of Front's, Calvus', lelupei all living together. How do they make that work?



5" yellow lab.

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4" Black Calvus.

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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby pford65 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:41 pm

I get your point noddy and I would do my darnedest to avoid such carnage but I also understand it's going to happen if you do such a thing. I plan on getting small fronts and watch them grow. I'm thinking this will at least give me a few years to enjoy the tank I have pictured in my mind before I start to move endangered fish into their own tank. Still pondering but thank you all for your input.
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby DJRansome » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:18 am

:oops: I was mislead by that article as a newbie here myself.
125G Borleyi, Maleri, Astatotilapia, Multipunctata
75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
75G Calvus, Caudopunctatus, Petricola
55G Chrysonotus; 38G Demasoni
33G Hara; 33G Kwanga; 33G Maingano; 33G Cobue
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby Fogelhund » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:41 am

noddy wrote:
pford65 wrote:Wow, I didn't expect to hear this about the Front's and their isolation. I've seen videos of Front's, Calvus', lelupei all living together. How do they make that work?



5" yellow lab.

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4" Black Calvus.

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As originally posted in KW forum, 2005 or 2006....

I had a friend, who had a front try and eat a WC Male borleyi who was all of 8"... now borleyi are a big bodied fish at that size.... He caught the front and took the borleyi out of the mouth to try and save it. The fish didn't survive... I'm not sure he could have swallowed it, but he sure tried. If you know Kardos....
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby Leyshpunctatus » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:21 pm

Will never forget seeing this picture.

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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby Fogelhund » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:28 pm

That looks to be about a 8-9" front, with a 4.5-5" Red Zebra in it's mouth.
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Re: Help me stock my 125 gallon 6 ft. tang tank, please.

Postby Jonesab7 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:45 pm

Wow..... I have a 9" Front in my 125 Hap/Peacock male tank. He has always been copacetic, shocked to see they will eat other fish this big.
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