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Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:21 pm

Hello, so i got my 55 gallon set up. I've been in the cookie cutter section and i love the sand sifter set up. But those fish are really expensive and hard to find. So my biggest thing is affordable and relatively easy to find fish. By affordable i mean around 10$.

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So i would like some open water tangs and cave dwellers. Preferably 4in in length, no shellies as im setting up another tank for them.
Any other recommendations would be great. Thanks !
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby DJRansome » Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:35 pm

The open water tangs are cyps and paracyps. You could try dwarf rainbow fish.

One or two rock dwellers: calvus, julidochromis, caudopunctatus are all favorites of mine.
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:04 pm

One or two pairs or 1 or 2 groups? If groups how many in each group? Also how many open water tangs should i get?
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby DJRansome » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:28 pm

You said you did not want to buy cyps or paracyps?

Let's say you stock calvus and julidochromis. Buy six and end up with a pair of each.
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:50 pm

No no, im fine with cyps and paracyps. I didnt want shellies.

What stocking would i look at for the most fish?
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby DJRansome » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:25 am

Add 12 cyps. Mine cost $20 per fish 10 years ago. And I bought from a breeder...not a retailer so that price was probably low for that time.

IDK how commonly available they are. They did not seem to fit the criteria you set.
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75G Demasoni, Maingano, Msobo, Lucipinnis
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33G Hara; 33G Kwanga; 33G Maingano; 33G Cobue
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:00 pm

Well im trying to find cheaper one. I was able to find cyps for 12$ per but they were of the jumbo variety do i wouldnt be able to get them
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:19 pm

Will Paracyprichromis nigripinnis "blue neon" work? I found them for 8$ a piece!
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby DJRansome » Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:40 pm

Yes. And you could probably get away with six of them instead of 12. They like high caves. Leave open swaths of substrate for them to sleep.
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:15 pm

Well my plan was to get 6 at first then get six more a few months later. And i have as high of caves as i can get without having very heavy rocks. And i have the open space on the substrate!
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby DJRansome » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:55 pm

Oh I thought the substrate looked pretty occupied by your rocks. Maybe a pile on each side and a swath in the middle...like divide the tank in thirds?

Not sure about aesthetics of this idea, but one experienced fish keeper leaned slates against the background that extended to the surface.
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:45 am

I can try that. It does look pretty covered in the picture but there is actually alot of open space
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Fogelhund » Mon Feb 20, 2017 2:00 pm

For Cyps and Paracyps, that's a pretty good setup rocks wise, and looks nice too. Not what you'd want for substrate spawners though.
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:24 pm

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Yes, no? Better? Any over all recommendation on the aquascape?
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Re: Help me stock my 55gal please!

Postby Alexpol08 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:42 pm

Fogelhund wrote:For Cyps and Paracyps, that's a pretty good setup rocks wise, and looks nice too. Not what you'd want for substrate spawners though.

I didnt see your comment before i reshaped
But thanks!
I dont believe I'm going to have substrate spawners. Unless cyps or paracyps are. I was going to have some julidochromis and i belive they lay eggs on the side of the caves, correct? Id love a pair of caudopunctatus as i had them before and loves them, but they always spawned in the substrate
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