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Postby RodBuilder » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:12 pm

Okay I have had some bad news in the last few weeks. A chip in my custom tank. So I bought a 40b (36" x 18" x 17") to replace it. Before I started cycling it, I found termites and rot. Got to move out and entirely gut kitchen and living room. So it gives me time to really plan my new tanks.

So in the 40b I am thinking if this would work?
1) 6 Altolamprologus compressiceps
2) 6 Julidochromis Ornatus
3) 6 Lamprologus, according to what I can find.
a) Speciosus (Ocellatus Black) preferred
b) Ocellatus Gold

If you know where I can find the Lamprologus Speciosus (Ocellatus Black) in maybe a month or two PM me.

These all would all be juvenile of course. Then as they grow I will drop down to a pair of compressiceps and pair of ornatus. And also weed out the Lamprologus as needed?

Other suggestions welcomed.

I am also thinking the back half of the tank be rock and then the left 1/4 to 1/3 rock as well. The Substrate will be 2” deep of CaribSea’s African cichlid mix in the Sahara Sand (0.5 - 1.5mm).

As for the filter I was thinking of an Eheim Classic 2213.

What suggestions, correction do yall have!
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Re: 40 Breeder Tanganyika Community

Postby DJRansome » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:21 pm

I would do either the altolamps or the julidochromis but not both. Rocks on one side, shells on the other and bare sand in between. What is the GPH for the Eheim? You want 8X to 10X hourly turnover.
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Re: 40 Breeder Tanganyika Community

Postby RodBuilder » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:53 pm

It is well short of that, it would be 2x at 116gph max.

What is the a reason for such a turnover in such a lightly stocked tank?

I think I would rather have the altolamps then the julies. What would be a third species recomendation, if any in a tank this size?
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Re: 40 Breeder Tanganyika Community

Postby DJRansome » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:06 pm

A 36" tank is tight, but some have success with six Paracyprichromis nigripinnis.

Cichlids are messy and nitrates < 10ppm avoids many health issues. That would not be lightly stocked for a 36" tank.

I have had 4X turnover but found I like at least 8X...less vacuuming, which is even more important with shellies because they don't like their shells disturbed. Also note that with media and any sludge the GPH declines...better to start off with something higher than 2X I would think.
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Re: 40 Breeder Tanganyika Community

Postby RodBuilder » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:05 pm

I guess I was just thinking juveniles. I guess I will keep the Eheim for my 25 gal when I get it back up and running. What type of filter would you suggest; HOB, Canister, Sump? Any brand or size suggestions?

I guess I am looking for a 400gph filter correct? Which end is it best to set the intake and output on with sand and rock setup on different ends?

Would you include a power head toward the sand just to flush stuff around?
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Re: 40 Breeder Tanganyika Community

Postby DJRansome » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:20 pm

I like HOB for low cost and canisters for silence. I've done both on tanks that size. Less evaporation with a canister as well. I have some Eheims, but have bought the Rena Filstar XP canister filters more recently for cost and ease of maintenance.

I'd put everything in the middle with one filter. No need for a power head if you get 400 GPH or even 320 GPH...that will flush stuff around AND filter the water.
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