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Postby zebadee73 » Thu May 22, 2008 11:15 am

24, I'd be interested in your contact. Drop me a PM and I'll call them tomorrow morning or later this afternoon.

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Postby 24Tropheus » Fri May 23, 2008 3:53 am

PM sent. WC Ikola about £17-£20 each is about a fair price on these. I think. :wink:
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Postby zebadee73 » Fri May 23, 2008 6:18 am

The Holland connection gaurentees they are F1, they are juveniules so not sure re sex etc but they work out at about 14 gbp per fish all in which is a pretty good deal :o
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Postby 24Tropheus » Fri May 23, 2008 7:44 am

For real first generation from wild?
How can you check that is what they are?
Were the WC they were bred from really WC?

Whats 14 gbp?
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Postby zebadee73 » Fri May 23, 2008 1:30 pm

According to the dealer who imports from Grant's they are pond bred from wild fish, you are correct that ultimately I can't check the authenticity of anything but the dealer is one of the key suppliers to UK LFS.

GBP, Great British Pounds as they are originally priced in Euro so I had to convert it back. I admit I run a risk by taking it at face value.
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Postby 24Tropheus » Fri May 23, 2008 1:47 pm

Not bad. TB Ikola seen 11 looking for £12 each, UK guy, so £14 ain't bad inc shipping.

Nice to have so many choices? :)
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Postby flashg » Fri May 23, 2008 3:41 pm

24Tropheus wrote:Nice to have so many choices? :)


Sounds like you guys have more choices in the UK than over here in the USA. Lucky buggers! NOt sure how to do this "$" in pounds on my keyboard or how to convert it to US currency. I think wild ikolas are going between $18-$26 over here and there is NO guarantee you will actually get wild fish!
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Postby 24Tropheus » Fri May 23, 2008 6:57 pm

Thats a lot cheaper than here mate. About £1= 2$. But the young here sell for the same sort of mark up, so there is a compensation.
We pay prices for some stuff you guys would not believe or tolerate.
Rubbish (many hybrids) TB Tropheus can sell in Lfs for £32 each in the well off areas!
Elec and power and fuel here is taxed very highly.
Kind of green policies, (when it suits the gov to rake it in? :wink: )
There is no garenttee or certification here either, not that we want it prob cost about £10 a fish if introduced but WC do look different to pond bred if you know what to look for.
Seen enough and been fooled so many times in the past, I guess I can tell by now. :wink:
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Postby cledus » Fri May 23, 2008 7:47 pm

For what it's worth, we have 16 Tropheus sp. "Black" (Kiriza) in a 40L (4 foot tank). Two AC 110 filters and a 235gph power head. To date have pulled a dozen fry from the tank and the kiriza are more peaceful than the red moliro. So far so good.
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Postby flashg » Fri May 23, 2008 11:46 pm

24Tropheus wrote:Thats a lot cheaper than here mate. About £1= 2$. But the young here sell for the same sort of mark up, so there is a compensation.
We pay prices for some stuff you guys would not believe or tolerate.
Rubbish (many hybrids) TB Tropheus can sell in Lfs for £32 each in the well off areas!
Elec and power and fuel here is taxed very highly.
Kind of green policies, (when it suits the gov to rake it in? :wink: )
There is no garenttee or certification here either, not that we want it prob cost about £10 a fish if introduced but WC do look different to pond bred if you know what to look for.
Seen enough and been fooled so many times in the past, I guess I can tell by now. :wink:


That stinks... Are you guys paying over $4 for a gallon of gasoline yet? :x
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Postby 24Tropheus » Sat May 24, 2008 6:06 am

We pay about £1.2 a liter, work it out and it comes to about double yours I think. :)
I guess its one reason WC are pricier here than at your end (despite us being so much closer to the source) plus there are not the same economies of scale in the UK, cichlid hobby is pretty small in comparison to Holland, Germany etc.
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Postby zebadee73 » Tue May 27, 2008 8:42 am

Well, I did it. I have bought and paid for 15 F1 Ikola, 12 females and 3 males. They are being delivered in four weeks time and as soon as they are settled in I will post photos.

Thanks everyone for your advice and opinions, I really apreciate it. :thumb:
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Postby IrkedCitizen » Tue May 27, 2008 4:20 pm

zebadee73 wrote:Well, I did it. I have bought and paid for 15 F1 Ikola, 12 females and 3 males. They are being delivered in four weeks time and as soon as they are settled in I will post photos.

Thanks everyone for your advice and opinions, I really apreciate it. :thumb:


Congrats on the purchase of your new fish. What size will they be? Because if they are under 3.5" they are going to be really hard to sex. So how they can guarantee you 3m/12f might be a bit iffy.
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Postby zebadee73 » Tue May 27, 2008 7:33 pm

I am told that they will be 6 to 8 cm in length, should make it easier but apart from venting there is no absolute way to be sure.
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Postby flashg » Tue May 27, 2008 10:23 pm

zebadee73 wrote:Well, I did it. I have bought and paid for 15 F1 Ikola, 12 females and 3 males. They are being delivered in four weeks time and as soon as they are settled in I will post photos.

Thanks everyone for your advice and opinions, I really apreciate it. :thumb:


Congrats mate, that is bloody cool! :thumb:
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